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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 05:09   
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OneMoar wrote:
its not like we don't have 50 other working appid's
i never under stood the whole don't talk about what appid's work
you are basically implying that valve doesn't know the second someone uses a appid for a game other then the one its intended
and its not like valve can't go download a torrent of game X and open steam_appid.txt lol



the point is valve are alot more likely to fix the exploits sooner if thousands of people start using the appids. anyway, blocking appids from working will just inspire some clever bastard to come up with a new way for us to play multiplayer.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 08:18   
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nice to know lmfao sadly they will get on it just like they did when DeadIsland came out and someone found a workaround steam went patch crazy on appid's sooner or later they will all be gone.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 15:36   
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jamhouse2009 wrote:
how was sniper elite nza patched to accept the serious sam appid if is supposed to be locked to the proper id, i know of a bunch of working ids but i have no clue on how to patch the locked exe's


When i read the info from Voksi_Bulgarian, me and my teamate were afraid about Dead Island Riptide because it's one of our favorite game in coop and steam_appid.txt contains 41010.
So i edited the steam_appid.txt from Dead Island first opus and fortunately it was not 41010. I just took it and replace the one from Riptide on both computers, launch GreenLuma, launch the game and all seems to be ok we were both in game. Ouf !

I made a quick list of our games that we play in coop and that use 41010 appid, for now i found : Inversion, RE6, Sniper Elite V2, Sniper Elite Nazie Zombie

Could someone tell me if those games need a patched exe or if i'm only need to use a correct appid in steamappid.txt (the one from Dead Island 1st opus for example) ?


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 15:54   
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Fluxetreflux wrote:
jamhouse2009 wrote:
how was sniper elite nza patched to accept the serious sam appid if is supposed to be locked to the proper id, i know of a bunch of working ids but i have no clue on how to patch the locked exe's


When i read the info from Voksi_Bulgarian, me and my teamate were afraid about Dead Island Riptide because it's one of our favorite game in coop and steam_appid.txt contains 41010.
So i edited the steam_appid.txt from Dead Island first opus and fortunately it was not 41010. I just took it and replace the one from Riptide on both computers, launch GreenLuma, launch the game and all seems to be ok we were both in game. Ouf !

I made a quick list of our games that we play in coop and that use 41010 appid, for now i found : Inversion, RE6, Sniper Elite V2, Sniper Elite Nazie Zombie

Could someone tell me if those games need a patched exe or if i'm only need to use a correct appid in steamappid.txt (the one from Dead Island 1st opus for example) ?

If you have read my comment, Sniper Elite Nazi Zombie Army, Castle Crashers and Dollar Dash (and some others I may have missed) requires a re-patched EXE to allow support for ALL fully spoofable appIDs, which I'd recommend so that should there be an appID that gets blacklisted, the gamers can simply change appIDs without having to consider re-patching the EXEs whenever this happens, making those said EXEs "futureproof" to a certain extent.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 16:00   
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gDrive wrote:
If you have read my comment, Sniper Elite Nazi Zombie Army, Castle Crashers and Dollar Dash (and some others I may have missed) requires a re-patched EXE to allow support for ALL fully spoofable appIDs, which I'd recommend so that should there be an appID that gets blacklisted, the gamers can simply change appIDs without having to consider re-patching the EXEs whenever this happens, making those said EXEs "futureproof" to a certain extent.


Thanks gDrive for your explanations...


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 16:22   
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well,this appid survived long enough.however,because it is blocked,i don't think it's good news,really.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 16:31   
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Fluxetreflux wrote:
gDrive wrote:
If you have read my comment, Sniper Elite Nazi Zombie Army, Castle Crashers and Dollar Dash (and some others I may have missed) requires a re-patched EXE to allow support for ALL fully spoofable appIDs, which I'd recommend so that should there be an appID that gets blacklisted, the gamers can simply change appIDs without having to consider re-patching the EXEs whenever this happens, making those said EXEs "futureproof" to a certain extent.


Thanks gDrive for your explanations...

No problem but it does serve as a lesson to the more tech-savvy who think about fixing executable files to support any compatible appIDs

wangzhiqiang wrote:
well,this appid survived long enough.however,because it is blocked,i don't think it's good news,really.

It's nothing new - appIDs get used all the time and eventually get cockblocked so it's always a good idea to have several working ones ready.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 16:35   
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gDrive wrote:
Fluxetreflux wrote:
gDrive wrote:
If you have read my comment, Sniper Elite Nazi Zombie Army, Castle Crashers and Dollar Dash (and some others I may have missed) requires a re-patched EXE to allow support for ALL fully spoofable appIDs, which I'd recommend so that should there be an appID that gets blacklisted, the gamers can simply change appIDs without having to consider re-patching the EXEs whenever this happens, making those said EXEs "futureproof" to a certain extent.


Thanks gDrive for your explanations...

No problem but it does serve as a lesson to the more tech-savvy who think about fixing executable files to support any compatible appIDs

wangzhiqiang wrote:
well,this appid survived long enough.however,because it is blocked,i don't think it's good news,really.

It's nothing new - appIDs get used all the time and eventually get cockblocked so it's always a good idea to have several working ones ready.

so,do you mean we have new available ids right now?


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 16:43   
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wangzhiqiang
Only one way to find out:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=47669


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 17:15   
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gDrive wrote:
wangzhiqiang
Only one way to find out:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=47669

fine.i will check that thread.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 21:10   
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Well the appid trick may end soon.
But what about creating our own steamworks EMU?
Here are the open steamworks source files:
http://hg.opensteamworks.org/open-steam ... at=default
It would be epic if somebody manage to do that... (Steam006, syahmixp, bir3yk?)

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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Wednesday, 10 Jul 2013, 21:57   
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Royalgamer06 wrote:
Well the appid trick may end soon.
But what about creating our own steamworks EMU?
Here are the open steamworks source files:
http://hg.opensteamworks.org/open-steam ... at=default
It would be epic if somebody manage to do that... (Steam006, syahmixp, bir3yk?)

As for the appID trickery, you might be right on that one but as for the Open Steamworks source files, that surely looks real cool. :)


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Thursday, 11 Jul 2013, 03:09   
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Royalgamer06 wrote:
Well the appid trick may end soon.
But what about creating our own steamworks EMU?
Here are the open steamworks source files:
http://hg.opensteamworks.org/open-steam ... at=default
It would be epic if somebody manage to do that... (Steam006, syahmixp, bir3yk?)



So I am just a player ,Can't I play any Game with Steam now with my Friends ? :-| :-|


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Friday, 12 Jul 2013, 19:56   
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ebnkhaldon wrote:
Royalgamer06 wrote:
Well the appid trick may end soon.
But what about creating our own steamworks EMU?
Here are the open steamworks source files:
http://hg.opensteamworks.org/open-steam ... at=default
It would be epic if somebody manage to do that... (Steam006, syahmixp, bir3yk?)



So I am just a player ,Can't I play any Game with Steam now with my Friends ? :-| :-|

You can for now, until the appID system has been revised to block appID spoofing altogether.


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Post Post subject: Re: 41010 is Black Listed.   
Posted: Sunday, 21 Jul 2013, 22:50   
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But has anyone got any new steam appid?


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