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Kuifje
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 21:48 |
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Mr.Deviance wrote: best_matrix07 wrote: Happy 600 post! If this works,PSJailBreak has right,this will help Sony,the PS3 sales will increase,I will buy a PS3 only to hack it  Happy 2009 registration! If this works, I doubt PS3 sales will increase and I don't understand where do you get your "certain" infos about marketing share and internal operations at sony. Maybe you wish to enlighten us too because otherwise I don't understand why sony themselves haven't "leaked" such a mod chip if it was going to help their sales so much? They put so much effort in protecting their console from being hacked, because their main income is not from the PS3 itself but from the games. So it might still be true that this mod chip will increase the sales of the PS3, but I doubt Sony will benefit much of this.
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NightArck
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 21:58 |
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I actually spotted a funny idea somewhere about this modchip where someone says that Sony "Leaked" the Jig and basically said "Screw the developers", but it was more of a silly comment rather then an estimation. Still, there's the slight possibility Sony might be trying something like this for their own reasons (even if its highly doubtful).
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 22:29 |
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NightArck wrote: Still, there's the slight possibility Sony might be trying something like this for their own reasons (even if its highly doubtful). First they remove the other OS option and then ensure that you can circumvent their copyprotection? No, definitely not. Also homebrew isn't by far as popular as one might think. Studies showed that only about 9% of all iPhones are jailbroken. And for iPhones that is achievable for free, not for $120.
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krusty
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 23:10 |
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Sony will probably remove USB from consoles like they did to linux installation. Next firmware probably will patch this thing. It's like on PSP scene where sony release firmware not games.
Btw. it's huge step in PS3 hacking. I was personally suprised that it didn't involved some more hardware hacking. Imagine PS3 warez with all those 25 gb blue-ray discs.
Don't think it's a hoax.
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NightArck
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 23:27 |
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According to some stuff I've seen it doesn't have to be such a drastic update, if the theory is correct and the jig is basically an internal Sony hardware clone, all Sony has to do is figure out which hardware exactly it is and block it from the system's boot sequence or something. There were rumors that Sony already found out about this jig a few days ago and is planning to release an update sometime around the end of august, even though I'm not sure if according to the rumors they're just going to block the USB function or just the Jig itself.
Well, either way they're just rumors, lets wait and see what happens. But come to think about, if Sony is likely to block the Jig or maybe the entire USB function on the PS3, what will happen the next time someone comes up with a hack? They're going to block the whole Blu-Ray drive? the external HDD function? or perhaps start slowly cutting on the firmwares functions?
I think Sony is really running out of their "counter measures".
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krusty
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 23:37 |
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It's all working together in a symbiosis. They cannot just cut sth off without any consequences. Installing linux was software thing to block. But blocking USB will rage customers of digital cameras for ps3 and other legal stuff.
If it's their internal tool it won't be easy to block it IMO.
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NightArck
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Saturday, 21 Aug 2010, 23:48 |
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They didn't mind pissing off a lot of people when they blocked the Other OS function, probably thinking it wouldn't be too much of a bother. So they actually might decide do something like this again come to think about it.
Which, if true, indeed will cause quite some rage. But still, there's the possibility Sony will actually find it's way out of this without any drastic measures (or updates) taken, otherwise there's going to be some serious doubt about them.
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Sunday, 22 Aug 2010, 01:38 |
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NightArck wrote: They didn't mind pissing off a lot of people when they blocked the Other OS function, probably thinking it wouldn't be too much of a bother. So they actually might decide do something like this again come to think about it. There is a small difference between that, to be honest. They're certainly not going to block all USB devices. If that 'jig' gizmo leaked, then they'll change the keys or whatever it used. If it's an exploit, they'll fix that. Why would they block USB devices? That would put by far more people at rage than the rather small group who'd try to run Linux on a PS3. I mean, according to statistics, ~1% of the world's desktops use Linux. Now let's say you could project this 1% on the PS3 ( I mean seriously, why would you want Linux on a PS3 ? I actually expect that figure to be smaller ). Even then, this makes 1%. Now guess what percentage they'd burn by disabling USB, not to mention what PR failure this would pose. 'Is it true that you disabled USB on PS3s because you failed to protect your consoles properly?' 'Well...yes' 'brb, buying an ecksbawks treesixty'. They'd rather let piracy happen than having to disable USB.
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CPAMX
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Sunday, 22 Aug 2010, 06:56 |
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ChrisTX wrote: NightArck wrote: They didn't mind pissing off a lot of people when they blocked the Other OS function, probably thinking it wouldn't be too much of a bother. So they actually might decide do something like this again come to think about it. There is a small difference between that, to be honest. They're certainly not going to block all USB devices. If that 'jig' gizmo leaked, then they'll change the keys or whatever it used. If it's an exploit, they'll fix that. Why would they block USB devices? That would put by far more people at rage than the rather small group who'd try to run Linux on a PS3. I mean, according to statistics, ~1% of the world's desktops use Linux. Now let's say you could project this 1% on the PS3 ( I mean seriously, why would you want Linux on a PS3 ? I actually expect that figure to be smaller ). Even then, this makes 1%. Now guess what percentage they'd burn by disabling USB, not to mention what PR failure this would pose. 'Is it true that you disabled USB on PS3s because you failed to protect your consoles properly?' 'Well...yes' 'brb, buying an ecksbawks treesixty'. They'd rather let piracy happen than having to disable USB. I wonder from where the hell you get ur "statistics" always from http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Sunday, 22 Aug 2010, 21:21 |
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best_matrix07
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Sunday, 22 Aug 2010, 23:16 |
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ChrisTX The statistics that you posted are ok,noone use te crap linux...
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NightArck
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Sunday, 22 Aug 2010, 23:29 |
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Talk for yourself emo haircut dude.. Linux is better imo, but lets not go off topic any more shall we? On-Topic: The chip for the PS3 Jig was identified, said to be easy to dump. The same guy also came up with a nice theory about how it works (check the twitter accounts i posted earlier). On the other side, Backups are already starting to show up on the Internet, not all of them seem to work using the jig.
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Monday, 23 Aug 2010, 00:03 |
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NightArck wrote: The chip for the PS3 Jig was identified, said to be easy to dump. The same guy also came up with a nice theory about how it works (check the twitter accounts i posted earlier). On the other side, Backups are already starting to show up on the Internet, not all of them seem to work using the jig. I'd also doubt it's such a thing as a 'jig'. I mean, leaking such a thing would pose the one whoever leaked it into serious legal trouble. If that was discovered, then the source would never have to work again, but would be sued to damages of millions and millions. However, there have been numerous jailbreaks using exploits. No code is safe against exploits, and that can always happen. I'd bet the thing uses some buffer overflow in the USB stack or something to overtake the thing.
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Mr.Deviance
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Monday, 23 Aug 2010, 05:49 |
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best_matrix07 wrote: ChrisTX The statistics that you posted are ok,noone use te crap linux... I think you didn't answer my question... Leave christx for later, for now you still need to answer from where did you get infos that sony is getting their sales up because of this! Stop trying to dodge the question.
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best_matrix07
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Post subject: Re: Playstation 3 hacked to run Homebrew and Backups Posted: Monday, 23 Aug 2010, 15:11 |
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Mr.Deviance wrote: best_matrix07 wrote: ChrisTX The statistics that you posted are ok,noone use te crap linux... I think you didn't answer my question... Leave christx for later, for now you still need to answer from where did you get infos that sony is getting their sales up because of this! Stop trying to dodge the question. It is my own freak logic ! In my country people don't buy ps3,coz they can't play backups (we are not so rich) ,now if they can play backups a lot of ppl (not only in my country) will buy a ps3,i mean come on it is the most advanced console and if it can play backups,it is perfect !,screw xbox 360,we get enough RRoD !
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