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Mr.Deviance
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Post subject: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 games! Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 04:53 |
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 05:12 |
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Xbox 360 = IBM POWER CPU. Emulating that = impossible with a x86/x64 one and acceptable speeds.
Also, why would Microsoft make xbox 360 games run on Windows? Too make the Xbox 360 less popular?
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.Rar
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 05:36 |
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I read about this on another forum, and my reaction was the same as ChrisTX's. Emulation involves, according my basic knowledge, pretending to be a completely different CPU to the running program. The Xbox 360 apparently runs on a 64-bit processor with a different instruction set, which with our currently available hardware isn't really possible to emulate at playable speeds.
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hegyak
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 06:18 |
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.Rar Emulation has always been an evolving thing. I remember back when MAME just started to emulate Hard Drivin' They said it would run at full speed on 12GHz. This was around the time Pentium 4 was in major use. Dual core wasn't even an option. Now, it works fine on 300MHz. That game is not running on an Intel or AMD CPU but it worked fine. Give anything time and it can be done. And if Microsoft will be doing XBox emulation, they are the best ones to do it. After all, they made the damn thing.
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mnem0nic
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 09:08 |
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M$ wouldn't bother emulating x360 as it's too risky and unstable. They will probably port some games to earn more money. What they can do is force users to buy some coprocessor with can run x360 native code.
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 10:05 |
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ii dont think MS realy wants to do this. PCs can have endless configurations and sources of errors and xboc is just one piece of hardware to maintain. couldn´t it be that a stripped down version if windows 8 will run on a xbox? could explain the code there, too.
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Mitsukarina
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 10:22 |
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I would imagine they are developing the xbox sdk alongside latest windows builds, it makes sense to have an emulator for xbox dev that can run in windows, even at a reduced speed it would be useful to devs, but i couldn't imagine it ever being of use (or available) to end users! 
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Steve Jobs
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 11:35 |
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I heard that W8 is going to be multi-platform and it's going to run on phones and other stuff too. So:
1: What you see is about the GFWL and XBL merger.
2: It's about running W8 on 360.
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shmelle
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 11:49 |
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Muhammad `I'm Hard´ Bruce Lee wrote: 2: It's about running W8 on 360. My thoughts exactly. Not the opposite.
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 15:43 |
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Muhammad `I'm Hard´ Bruce Lee wrote: I heard that W8 is going to be multi-platform and it's going to run on phones and other stuff too. So:
1: What you see is about the GFWL and XBL merger.
2: It's about running W8 on 360. It would make little sense to port W8 to PowerPC. On phones is the rumor, but it has never been confirmed or anything. It will only run on ARM (and as for WS not IPF anymore), that's it. hegyak wrote: Emulation has always been an evolving thing. I remember back when MAME just started to emulate Hard Drivin' They said it would run at full speed on 12GHz. This was around the time Pentium 4 was in major use. Dual core wasn't even an option. Now, it works fine on 300MHz. That game is not running on an Intel or AMD CPU but it worked fine. Give anything time and it can be done. And if Microsoft will be doing XBox emulation, they are the best ones to do it. After all, they made the damn thing. You shouldn't compare MAME and an incredibly powerful IBM Xenon. Whilst you could - in theory - JIT the whole thing ( which would be one hell of a project ), it's not gonna happen.
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 16:26 |
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ChrisTX wrote: It would make little sense to port W8 to PowerPC. It would make a lot more sense than most of their crap.
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ChrisTX
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 20:54 |
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Really? I wonder how you know so much about how Windows 8 is going to be like!
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Monday, 18 Jul 2011, 23:53 |
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In my opinion they're just making it easier to develop multiplatform games (360 + PC) by introducing 360 functionality directly into Windows. While most commercial games are moving to consoles, they can't abandon the PC as a gaming platform because that's still a huge advantage against competing operating systems.
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cYCyIYoRDf
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Tuesday, 19 Jul 2011, 02:09 |
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hegyak
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Post subject: Re: Wide spread rumours that Windows 8 will run xbox360 game Posted: Tuesday, 19 Jul 2011, 02:14 |
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peshkohacka If Microsoft can give users cross console play via Windows 8, they would have a nice advantage in the market over pretty much anyone else. Though anti-trust would be all over that mess.
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