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Author:  quote [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 06:19 ]
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Whats the certificate file name? I will get it from a secret place!
Author:  ChrisMRuLZ [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 07:14 ]
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pataumbr wrote:
the certificates only work on machines WHEN you login with the cafeid into steam site.
copying the certificate to your machine don't work!
:cry: :cry:

what you need is a login of an cybercafe member and download the certificate to your machine!


yes but we MAY be able to crack them if we get one.
it's prolly 256bit but there could be possibility for even a side channel attack.

i'm hoping these are the same as normal i.e. certificates as i know several weaknesses..
can't wait till i get my hands on a certificate :)
Author:  lai-cn [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 08:08 ]
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ChrisMRuLZ wrote:

yes but we MAY be able to crack them if we get one.
it's prolly 256bit but there could be possibility for even a side channel attack.

i'm hoping these are the same as normal i.e. certificates as i know several weaknesses..
can't wait till i get my hands on a certificate :)


cool....
Author:  z1co [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 08:46 ]
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ChrisMRuLZ wrote:
pataumbr wrote:
the certificates only work on machines WHEN you login with the cafeid into steam site.
copying the certificate to your machine don't work!
:cry: :cry:

what you need is a login of an cybercafe member and download the certificate to your machine!


yes but we MAY be able to crack them if we get one.
it's prolly 256bit but there could be possibility for even a side channel attack.

i'm hoping these are the same as normal i.e. certificates as i know several weaknesses..
can't wait till i get my hands on a certificate :)


That`s why i love you guys :D
Author:  d1m0n [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 10:07 ]
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valvecafepc60XXX works :P
Author:  ChrisMRuLZ [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 10:13 ]
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<D1M0N> wrote:
valvecafepc60XXX works :P


true..
and now there not going to..
thanks for releasing that info.. ;)

p.s. it's not ALL 60xxx accounts.
Author:  sabu4 [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 10:48 ]
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Quote:
RunCafe


Where can i get this from..... or is it in the fourms......??
Author:  hoedy [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 10:57 ]
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<D1M0N> wrote:
valvecafepc60XXX works :P

I figured that but I couldnt find in in that range.
Author:  hCUPa [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 11:04 ]
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ChrisMRuLZ wrote:
yes but we MAY be able to crack them if we get one.
it's prolly 256bit but there could be possibility for even a side channel attack.

First of all. Side channel attack is an attack on cryptosystem implementation, if you lack skills to figure out simple encryption of account-password pair in VTT, there's no way you can find bug in ms cryptolib. Not to mention that codebase of cryptoprovider used is pretty much mature and errors were fixed long time ago.

Second, please get a clue about cryptography. There's no way in hell certificate keypair is 256 bits long. 256 bits can be factorized within reasonable time. Default length is 1024 bits and I think Valve sticks with that.
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i'm hoping these are the same as normal i.e. certificates as i know several weaknesses..
can't wait till i get my hands on a certificate :)

"True MAC generation algorithm" strikes back. Now it will allow you to break arbitrary length certificates with ease. That's funny :)
Author:  ChrisMRuLZ [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 11:13 ]
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hCUPa wrote:
Second, please get a clue about cryptography. There's no way in hell certificate keypair is 256 bits long. 256 bits can be factorized within reasonable time. Default length is 1024 bits and I think Valve sticks with that.


umm when the hell did i say the entire certificate was 256bits long?
dude get a clue.

plus do you even know what type of certificates we/valve are talking about?
you know there are different types of ie certificates.
untill you actually have a legit account it's all guesswork for us.
Author:  hCUPa [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 11:43 ]
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ChrisMRuLZ wrote:
umm when the hell did i say the entire certificate was 256bits long?
dude get a clue.

Entire certificate is much longer. We are talking about length of keys, because THAT is important.
If you were talking about something else, its not awfully late to say so.

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plus do you even know what type of certificates we/valve are talking about?
you know there are different types of ie certificates.
untill you actually have a legit account it's all guesswork for us.

A look into cacdll code shows that its RSA+SHA1. And RSA keys are 1024 bits by default.
Author:  TripseV [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 13:27 ]
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discuss this on the rin IRC channel.
Author:  neutrino [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 13:45 ]
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in plain english dude, will i be able to get a steamcafe id ever again?
Author:  TripseV [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 13:47 ]
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neutrino wrote:
in plain english dude, will i be able to get a steamcafe id ever again?


most likely
Author:  lonly [ Wednesday, 27 Sep 2006, 13:59 ]
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isn't anyone able to brute force a pw of a steam cafe on the steampowered site?
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