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Author:  DAEMONiC [ Monday, 23 Apr 2007, 15:17 ]
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Deviant™ wrote:
3. Proxies wont protect him. Half the proxy servers in the world are run or closely monitored by the FBI, and the other half are run by people who will hand over your info in 1 second if a pack of agents turn up saying "We're gonna throw your ass in buttfucker prison if you don't give us access to your server".

Proxies will protect you from the small guys, but the big guys have more than enough power to lean on the proxy server owners and ISPs, and get the info they need to trace you.
People are employed to do this job. If they want to get you, they probably will.


Well, what if the Proxies don't create Logfiles? And they are from a Private Person? Then the FBI is fucked up ;-)

Or you can do it on the secure way. Take your Notebook, go out (Yep, smell the fresh air, and look into Sun ;-) ) and search for an unsecured W-LAN Network. Once you found one, go back home, and create a little "Plan". Then sneak to the Place again, but with an other Notebook (or fake the MAC adress), so that nobody can see you, and then, do your hacker attack from there ^^
Author:  krusty [ Monday, 23 Apr 2007, 16:08 ]
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yeah good so called "plan". WEP keys used to protect wi-fi are cracked in 5-10 min of capturing packets 8)

but anyway... that's fucked up that community suffer bcs of /one man/

/one man/ -> /one decision/ -> /one desire/ :roll:
Author:  g3rm4nb0y [ Monday, 23 Apr 2007, 18:37 ]
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.cue wrote:
Hey guys ..Glad to see rin back up :)

i dont know why i even come here its like an addiction or something lol
(no specific reason)

I have to say its been a looong time since i played a valve game
and i bought CSS in Nov 2006 and played like for a week or two
ever since i been playing Battlefield 2 :)

im wondering what the specific reason was for dropping maddy as a mod was ?
what did he do ? wasa it cause of that valve web site hacking stuff ?


well the way i know maddoxx is just flaming people, behaving like "da uber 1337 best haxxor on earth" and way too arrogant...i dont think someone like that should be a moderator although i dont wanna say he got no skillz ;) but no "social" ones if you ask me
Author:  krusty [ Monday, 23 Apr 2007, 20:55 ]
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I didn't talked with him never :p lol

Why PROViSION forums are down ??
Author:  Disco-Tek [ Monday, 23 Apr 2007, 21:11 ]
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Krzywy wrote:
I didn't talked with him never :p lol

Why PROViSION forums are down ??
Uh Valve?
Author:  RessourectoR [ Monday, 23 Apr 2007, 21:55 ]
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cue, yes, RIN is addicting.

KillerJoe, the thing is that he actually is an uploader for Pacman, and he made a really weird comment there, don' t you think?


MaddoxX took his forum down by himself. It will be offline for approx. a month.
g3rm4nb0y, with MaddoxX it's a bit different than with cI.., who doesn't only pretend to be antisocial. MaddoxX does at some points, just like our OT spammers pretend they're idiots with some posts, although they're not ;)
It's the internet after all.
Author:  KEROLiUKAS [ Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007, 00:12 ]
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w00t im finally unbanned..and u guys are stupid..even if they get his ip..#care...they got no evidence it was him...he already got his HDD clean..
Author:  Deviant™ [ Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007, 03:54 ]
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KeRoLiUkAs wrote:
w00t im finally unbanned..and u guys are stupid..even if they get his ip..#care...they got no evidence it was him...he already got his HDD clean..



uh... you were banned? :?
for how long?
what did you do this time? :lol:


Anyway, the post at the top of this page is the closest to understanding how to do things online COMPLETELY anonymously with no trace.

If you go online, you leave a trail- no matter how you do it, there is a trail leading back to your computer.
I live with IT networking professionals and I studied advanced networking for telcos. I'm working in an ISP part time and I'll be in a more senior IP position by the end of the year- probably with qualifications for NOC support (where all the ISPs connect together).

If you are online, there is a direct line back to your PC.

The only way to do it is use a laptop, hack someone's unprotected wifi network, do your shit and throw away the laptop (ensuring you didn't leave any fingerprints or personal files on the laptop, or access any identifiable info like your personal email lol!).
Author:  ColdFusioN [ Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007, 04:41 ]
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Couldn't you actually just use other people's computers, like trojaned ones, or ones you've placed in your own botnet? And then once you're done your dirty work, just make sure the bot deletes itself for good, or even better, completely just wipes the computer HD itself - so even if the FBI later recover data, there are no logs to prove anything.
Author:  pyrokn03 [ Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007, 07:58 ]
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Proxies will protect you from the small guys, but the big guys have more than enough power to lean on the proxy server owners and ISPs, and get the info they need to trace you.
People are employed to do this job. If they want to get you, they probably will.

How foolish, its really dumb to use proxys! The only untracable secure way is through the Onion Network aka Tor. http://tor.eff.org
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so even if the FBI later recover data, there are no logs to prove anything.

Almost anything can be recovered off a wiped hard drive. Its how computer forensics make a living. If you were to securely wipe a hard drive there would still be logs on routers and it would take hours to actully wipe a hard drive efficiently with out detection.
Author:  thenico [ Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007, 11:26 ]
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Maddox have a big botnet.
You cannot restore file erased 400 time.

So destroying some relay in his chain made him untracable :)
Author:  krusty [ Tuesday, 24 Apr 2007, 16:05 ]
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yeah wi-fi way is the best but MaddoxX does in using 1337 proxy and connected to some hax00red pc. Through that pc valve was owned.

There is a way that thy can catch him... they can trace that pc->from that pc-> proxy -> MaddoxX :)

He is actually smarter than all of them :)
Author:  KEROLiUKAS [ Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 05:31 ]
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the only shit they can use is maddoxx hdds, if they find him, which is very possible...but #care..harddrive doesn't have no shit anymore...


Deviant™ wrote:
KeRoLiUkAs wrote:
w00t im finally unbanned..and u guys are stupid..even if they get his ip..#care...they got no evidence it was him...he already got his HDD clean..



uh... you were banned? :?
for how long?
what did you do this time? :lol:

It was a bug or smthg, i wasn't banned from the actual forum, i could use proxy or another pc to access my account, but for some reason, my ip was banned from the whole server, so i would get page not found msg....anyways Mr.Dev fixed...w00000000000t! :P
Author:  elton_- [ Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 22:21 ]
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OMG! MaddoXx is FAMOUS!
On every eSport side is a news about "VALVe Hacking" .. :lol:
Author:  KEROLiUKAS [ Thursday, 26 Apr 2007, 02:12 ]
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#care?
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