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Author:  RessourectoR [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 22:57 ]
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Yea, it is, you hypocrite.

I really want to know how we can be so bad and suck so much like you rant all day, if this forum actually gives you things to repack and without it, you wouldn't have anything to steal.

Shaman, that's perfectly true. It's actually a noob filter, isn't it. Idiots use it and those who know to do better, don't.

Author:  classics [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:15 ]
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There are only one app used in pacsteam that is taken from this forum now, and that is SteamBuster. In my opinion it should also be delete, and I hope it will be soon.

Most of pacsteam has been programmed from scratch by this guy:
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Among others. If you want to stop pacsteam, you should try to focus more on getting rid of all the users of pacsteam that are the ones creating the project anyway. Maby rin.ru would be able to recruit the 11 programmers and coders working on pacsteam? Who knows, right?

Everything is possible 8)

Author:  RessourectoR [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:24 ]
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Who wants to stop Pacsteam? We want to stop repacking. I'm not so sure where those "crackers" should come from, but we'll see about that.

Author:  rQzor [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:28 ]
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Yep ressourector's right :) Just stop repacking :)

someone who worked hard to make a crack and then a noobish comes and repack his stuffs and doesn't give any credits about the creator :/ it's just so crappy

Author:  Steve Jobs [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:30 ]
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I am sure that they built the patcher using UnDeadPatch's sourcecode.

"I opened the file, added two lines of code that only outputs text and I compiled it. Yay! I coded a patcher."

Author:  rQzor [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:33 ]
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LooL shaman xD everybody can say that :) But Great Credits To sasio who created that Patch !

Author:  ChrisTX [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:46 ]
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Imo PacFag can create as many cracked steam versions as he like, as long as he doesn't repack. If they want to provide a cracked steam install to all those n00bs, easy and userfriedly they may do (actually I would like them to do so, as then the n00bs won't spam @ rin :lol: ). But as I said: Not with repacked stuff.
I really don't care what they do, as long as they don't steal our stuff.

(btw: it's somehow looping as VALVe should have the same view :lol: )

Author:  classics [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:46 ]
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Shaman (AKA AlicanC) wrote:
I am sure that they built the patcher using UnDeadPatch's sourcecode.


I can tell you that it is a he- not "they" AND he didnt have any source code for the patcher to begin with and did program everything from scratch!

The truth: It was a look at how the undead patcher worked it self, and compaired the steam.dll to figure out where the changes are made.

In other words: Downloading a patcher from rin.ru isnt nessesary, when you know how to patch things for your self ;-)

Author:  ChrisTX [ Monday, 18 Feb 2008, 23:51 ]
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classics
So if I have a look at undeadpatchs source and rip off the offsets and assembly patches, create a new patcher and say it's mine: Isn't that stealing?!
Of course undeadpatch is useless for them, it's complicated like hell (at least from n00b-view).

Author:  classics [ Tuesday, 19 Feb 2008, 00:13 ]
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ChrisTX wrote:
classics
So if I have a look at undeadpatchs source and rip off the offsets and assembly patches, create a new patcher and say it's mine: Isn't that stealing?!.


You can call it what ever you want, but this is just where the present is the platform in order to get up to next level and create something new- and when enough people are pushing towards such a change, it will happen sooner or later...


This is known as evolution, and you can call it stealing if you want- But it still doesn´t change what it is.

Author:  ChrisTX [ Tuesday, 19 Feb 2008, 00:23 ]
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classics wrote:
You can call it what ever you want, but this is just where the present is the platform in order to get up to next level and create something new- and when enough people are pushing towards such a change, it will happen sooner or later...


This is known as evolution, and you can call it stealing if you want- But it still doesn´t change what it is.

No.
1. People are pushing means in fact n00bs.
2. I assume "next level" is then stealing other people's stuff and packing it n00b friendly?
3. They don't "evolve" anything. They just take what's there and pack it up n00b friendly without any credits. Others showed how it's correct. Like p3ng3l: He's is using undeadpatch in his launcher but he still gives credits to SASiO. Fagman doesn't.
4. Why do you try to defend him? You can post as many arguments like he "had" to do so (because "people are pushing"). Nope. There's a big difference between creating an "evolution" (which is in fact today a rewrite from scratch with improvements, so there is mostly no necessarity of giving credits, as the groups found the offset themselves. Else it is, but Fagman doesn't).
5. It's the same war like we would try to justify ourself against VALVe. We crack cause we have to do so because "people are pushing". That's making really no sense.

Author:  classics [ Tuesday, 19 Feb 2008, 00:30 ]
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That's making really no sense


LOL, not to you no... I can see that :lol:

What I meant is that there must be a reason why so many thousands use pacsteam.

Besides: I do not use pacsteam my self.

Author:  Steve Jobs [ Tuesday, 19 Feb 2008, 00:33 ]
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classics wrote:
It was a look at how the undead patcher worked it self, and compaired the steam.dll to figure out where the changes are made.

Could you do that without UnDeadPatch? No. So you have to give a credit to SASiO.

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I released The Rinner 0.0.8b with PacSP. I was going to add IP and computer ID ban too, but I didn't want to slow the launch process more.

Author:  RessourectoR [ Tuesday, 19 Feb 2008, 00:41 ]
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So many thousands use PacSteam because what is absolutely fool proof, no matter how crappy, spreads fast.

Amen to ChrisTXs last post.

Author:  classics [ Tuesday, 19 Feb 2008, 00:45 ]
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Could you do that without UnDeadPatch? No. So you have to give a credit to SASiO.


LOL, yes yes relax, I did read the laws in here before; SASIO gives credit to .cue who should give credit to h3llboss who got the idea from cintx and y-error who turned out to be the same person who worked for maddoxx who everyone believed was Gabe´s co-founder of VALVe and got busted by the police for telling everyone the secret of cracking steam- or what about h3llboss that also posted under the alias SteamRipper because he was tired of getting attacked for "stealing" and ripping people off .

I read all that, but as said: That was the past, the future is now... Deal with it.

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So you have to give a credit to SASiO.


I don´t have to do anything because I have nothing to do with it what so ever, since I am not the one programming anything.

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