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Author:  RessourectoR [ Saturday, 09 Aug 2008, 18:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Sure, but are they worth a war between USA and Russia - that can lead to a lot more shit?

Author:  NightArck [ Saturday, 09 Aug 2008, 19:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

no , but still this is not fair for them , besides USA is not Dump to go to war with Russia just cause of some small
land , but still if something will get that fucked up Russia brought this on them selfs .

God ! , Politics sucks so fucking bad .

Author:  Tom [ Saturday, 09 Aug 2008, 19:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Georgia dosen't even ask for war materials/Military support.

It ask NATO for Diplomatic help.


As close NATO allies in Operation Enduring Freedom and the War in Iraq they should get support.

Author:  Mr.Deviance [ Saturday, 09 Aug 2008, 23:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Right now the Georgian army owned some russian planes and tanks from what I read :ROFL: .
I wonder what they think they are doing?
If they piss off russia too much, they can even get nuked.

As a reply for NightArck, dude it seems you are living inside a box where everybody respects the rules at an international level, and that makes you be so sure a country can't conquer another country in our days.
Russia never created this rules, europe and usa did and russia always said for lulz "ehm yea what ever we will also abide by them now gtfo and stop boring us with your rules"
You can conquer a country if you have enough army and economical power and trust me you can give 1000 fake stories if you want to conquer a country and give a legal excuse to the other countries.
We are not living in the dark ages any more but that doesn't mean big countries don't wish to get even bigger.

Fake or not fake the current russian story is that Georgia got their army in gear and decided to pump Ossetia's ass with bullets and rockets.
As we all know, Germany used an excuse in the past that Poland started to attack them just so we can find out later that it was the other way around.
I hope this is not the case here.
You know russians know they were able to defeat the nazies, they are very confident in their army they also realise that USA has gone down allot and is still going down and who knowns, maybe they decide to try the old "nazi conquer the world" cliché.

Author:  Tom [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 03:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

But remember. South Ossetia is Georgian!!!!!!!! The Georgian Army was only capturing back their OWN are from rebels.

If that was the same case in example Russia. Russians would also do what the Georgian did. And those Russki peace force is a type of occupation of Georgian, an EU/NATO friendly country, and i would see it on a attack on the free world.

Russia is ruled by communists and other evil force.

Author:  Mr.Deviance [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 04:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

If Georgia would have been in E.U and in Nato I think russia wouldn't have bombarded shit.
I clearly saw how russians bombarded civilian buildings.
Ok if russia wants to take over Georgia fine but at least don't bomb civilian blocks, that is so gay and uncalled for imo.
Freaking bomb army centers or the tv station not the apartment buildings.
I wonder what they want to show with that?
How evil they are or what?
I would understand their civilian building bombing attitude, in the case in which russians hated the guts of georgians like for ex Romanians hate hungarians and vice versa. If I would go in a war with hungary and I would get the chance I would shoot the civilian hungarians as a top priority, but that's because I hate their guts and it would make sense. In this case here I don't see any logics. Why do they destroy the capital if they want to conquer it?

Author:  Tom [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 05:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

They dont want to do that (they say) - They one to secure russian citizens...
by bombing civilian georgian....

Author:  RessourectoR [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 11:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

"Evil force"? Haha, that sounds so american. Communism is just based on an idea that doesn't work for various reasons.

"Ok if russia wants to take over Georgia fine but at least don't bomb civilian blocks, that is so gay and uncalled for imo."


True.

Author:  gasmask_1337 [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 11:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Georgia should buy some nukes, and use those on Russia for being so gay.

Author:  ChrisTX [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 12:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Tom wrote:
But remember. South Ossetia is Georgian!!!!!!!! The Georgian Army was only capturing back their OWN are from rebels.

Right that is wrong, simply wrong.

Guys, seriously inform yourself before you state something.

South Ossetia and Abkhazia don't really belong to Georgia. They have been taken over with force and are almost politically and economically independent. Georgia doesn't give a shit about them. The people suffer from poverty. And since long time (start of the 90ers) both explained the independance but it hasn't been accepted by other countries. Both lands have even their own president.

The point is that Geogria spends all their money in their army and don't fight the poverty there. Also there was a referendum in 2006 where almost everyone in South Ossetia voted for independence.

The Russians provoked this war in some ways too. As of a contract, Russia may have peacekeepers in Georgia. During the last years Russia supplied the people in those regions with Russian passports, many people have nowadays Russian passports there. And of course some people are for Russia since Russia cares for them (as of economical interest mainly).

Georgia attacked then, since they claimed Russia wants to take over these areas.

However, it is obvious that Russia doesn't care about Georgia, but only about their own interests.
Neither Russia or Georgia think though about making Ossetia (not only the southern part) and Abkhazia independant. (which would probably be the best solution).

Author:  ~Myfistus_Clarvetta~ [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 20:53 ]
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Mr.Deviance wrote:
I hope usa lets russia wipe out georgia if they have to.
Georgia is a too small country to even matter.
They are not on nato nor in E.U
Screw them, if they can't behave let russia eat them like a big shark.


Remember that world war 1 was partially started by 2 meaningless country's fighting who each had big allies.

Author:  ChrisTX [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 21:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

~Myfistus_Clarvetta~ wrote:
Remember that world war 1 was partially started by 2 meaningless country's fighting who each had big allies.

Actually it has been started by the murder of 1 person, archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. Lulz, in some way that one murder started it. But actually it was the tension - like here again - freed by one event.

Author:  NightArck [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 22:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Mr.Deviance wrote:
As a reply for NightArck, dude it seems you are living inside a box where everybody respects the rules at an international level, and that makes you be so sure a country can't conquer another country in our days.
Russia never created this rules, europe and usa did and russia always said for lulz "ehm yea what ever we will also abide by them now gtfo and stop boring us with your rules"
You can conquer a country if you have enough army and economical power and trust me you can give 1000 fake stories if you want to conquer a country and give a legal excuse to the other countries.
We are not living in the dark ages any more but that doesn't mean big countries don't wish to get even bigger.


then what your saying is we need to screw the rules and let them beat the crap out of Georgia ?
sure , just small space no body will miss it,
but what if somebody will come to some one and beat the shit out of him just to get him self something the person got , and he has a chance doing so ? you will just let somebody beat the shit out of someone else cause he can get what he want from him by force ?

besides , what will happen if they do get the space ,and another opportunity like this will be available to them at the future again ? get some more small space from someone else , just cause you can ..

sounds familiar ?

ChrisTX wrote:
Actually it has been started by the murder of 1 person, archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. Lulz, in some way that one murder started it. But actually it was the tension - like here again - freed by one event.


or how about the Gulf War , iraq just decided to take Kuwait , small country , shitload of Petroleum , and iraq took it by force .

familiar , no ?

Author:  JOOP !™ [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 23:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Russia vs Georgia Conflict.

Tom wrote:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/08/08/intv.saakashvili.cnn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%2 ... th_Ossetia

What is you mening?



It is dirty lie! CNN broadcasts events somehow the USA, instead of objectively. Who trusts in it that fool! War there has begun Georgia, the Georgian army destroys peace citizens and hopes for protection of Americans. But in vain. Saakashvili awakes it is prosecuted also its mode should be completely will derthrow. And awakes.

USA - world agressor ! Georgia today the American puppet ! The president of Georgia both its environment criminals and murderers, their hands on an elbow in blood of Ossetic citizens and blue helmets UN, Mass media EC - cowards and liars

I am assured, that so considers overwhelming majority of the Russian citizens.


And why here nobody speaks what the Georgian army has completely destroyed the whole city of South Ossetia? Ааааа, to you of it have not told yes!? Here it hahahaha... Your "free" Europe shivers as a hare against the USA and are afraid against Yanky to tell a word. A shame!!! You slaves to America! :8=)

It is True : http://evrazia.org/n.php?id=2693 http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=onair :8=)

Author:  NightArck [ Sunday, 10 Aug 2008, 23:48 ]
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Okay , i dont get this .
Who attacked first ? Russia Or Georgia ?

Cause what i heard is that Russia bombed Georgia Cause of some politic crap , but if thats not True , why would Georgia Try to piss-off Russia Like this ?

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