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Posted: Wednesday, 04 Jun 2008, 11:44   
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how the unique steamid is generated which you claimed it will never change even reconnecting so many times? curious to know. :shock:


yes steamid is unique for computer... ID generation system isnt public for secure reason ;)


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Posted: Wednesday, 04 Jun 2008, 16:54   
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It is as long as shared ID, IP2ID and HL1 WON (can't generate unique ID) are active.
And changing this ID is very complicated.


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Posted: Thursday, 05 Jun 2008, 23:15   
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Trunk changes:

Updated cintX's HookEmu support.
Added new config option LogRejectedClientTypeOnConnect which will enforce eSTEAMATiON to print info about policy restricted clients just before dropping them(this will help admins to understand which users rejected from their servers and why they see SteamStartValidatingUserIDTicket: Returned ESteamError 25 line in their servers sometimes).

Continuing my work and tests on Source 2007 engine(still no any promising progress in this area without client support).

P.S Some ppl wrote that eSTEAMATiON is too long name :D :D
Not so long but if it will help you are free to refer to it as: eST
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Posted: Thursday, 05 Jun 2008, 23:25   
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And I also figured out why my server wasnt on setti list.
They told me that they only accept server where ALL clients can connect. If you block LEGACY steamemu or any other clients then they will kick you out of the list.
That sucks in my opinion but yeah......
There is no other way :(


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Posted: Thursday, 05 Jun 2008, 23:35   
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I can confirm now that SteamID validation admin on amxx works right. Reserved slots works smooth and fine ;)

Also I have not any problems with setti, as long as I use shared static IP for NS and allow all type clients 8)

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Posted: Thursday, 05 Jun 2008, 23:40   
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Can the community put pressure on them to change that stupid method? They are going to support non-unique ID's thus supporting cheaters officialy...
I they'll continue like this need of new master server will be needed to put setti down...
Ill see that i can do about... Maybe add option with unique timet to let those bitches join and after the timer is zeroed out drop them :D :D That setti think about it? They wanna do it hard way :D :D

During implementation of new trunk options ive found small bug in New(NonLegacy) SteamEmu security system on eSTEAMATiON side. They will be able to join even if set to False in configuration :) Most probably those are the clients with STEAM_ID_PENDING ID's :D
Fixed in Trunk ;)

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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 00:49   
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vityan666 wrote:
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Can the community put pressure on them to change that stupid method?


Setti supports all clients. Those made by you, me, the brazilian cracker, the russian cracker, the chinese cracker, the noob wanna-be-cracker and all the rest. All who can get the game running *MUST* be able to play somewhere. Setti provides list for those players.

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They are going to support non-unique ID's thus supporting cheaters officialy...

You're way off there. Are you trying to puff your own "unique ID" community wrecking system or just downplaying Setti?

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Ill see that i can do about... Maybe add option with unique timet to let those bitches join and after the timer is zeroed out drop them :D :D That setti think about it? They wanna do it hard way :D :D

Server admins can install Mani Admin Plugin and enable "Kick STEAM_PENDING players". It does pretty much the same. Feel free to do your own timer system, but don't count on that Setti doesn't do counter-strike (pun intented).

Anyways, this nonsense bitching will not decrease number of cheaters. Blank Steam accounts are free. How many you've got? You can look at the right side of Steam and see how many cheaters there are there. There's nothing you can do to make cheaters disappear - except having very good administration with skills. Contact Setti administration at css.setti.info for detailed tips.

If you're going to continue your crusade for bringing Steam into non-Steam, then please contact Setti administration at css.setti.info and we'll work something out ;)

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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 01:01   
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Those made by you

Never made client crack but thanks for complement :D :D
I work only with servers ;)

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You're way off there. Are you trying to puff your own "unique ID" community wrecking system or just downplaying Setti?

Hmm. Not mine. auth system of client emus like SteamEmu,RevEmu and others so im not trying to "invent something" but many ppl invented something shared.
P.S if youll read the whole thread - seti is not my problem(ima not care at all) but ppls problem. Initiali nothing setti specific was implemented as i thougth adding to their list is enougth(traditional way) but ppl started reporting about server scanner and other stuff... So thats not my problem...

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Anyways, this nonsense bitching will not decrease number of cheaters

ORLY? Most of them are dumb kids so this will eventually help(At least the non-steam ones) ;)

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except having very good administration with skills

From my side thats always assumed as MUST be ;)
I hate lame admins :D

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If you're going to continue your crusade for bringing Steam into non-Steam, then please contact Setti administration at css.setti.info and we'll work something out

Im going to do that ;) As you can see ive got much far by now but thats just a start ;) Ill contact them if my lil new trick will not work(already done in TRUNK) :) Maybe they will have better suggestion to community problem :)

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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 07:47   
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ROFL! this it best crack ever, and yes, can help with cheaters, and ...cheaters with blanc acc is kicked ;)


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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 15:24   
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I posted my opinion about this at Setti. Here is the quote:
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Ok my server is online again thanks!
Anyway its shit that an admin cant say that they dont want players on the server with IP generated IDs....
So cheaters have much more luck again -.-
Come on people think about it!
This new server plugin is like a revolution of server cracks and a big step against non-steam cheating.
If an admin dont want people with IP generated IDs on their server then it should be ok.
And anyway. Only old SteamEmu clients have IP generated IDs.
So if somebody has his game up to date then he can join all servers with no problem.

I think you really should think about that.


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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 16:01   
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Only old SteamEmu clients have IP generated IDs.


but this is problem... for secure server you need turn off all IP2ID systems, we need kick all players with old steamemu becouse this players dont have up-date game release (i DZ CSS Patchv18)

so all players with old game release (without rate restriction, sv_pure protection, etc) are kicked ;)


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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 16:06   
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The big progress happened in setti vs eST area.

My dumb test server which has been configured with very strict security policy(no steamemu at all,no setti server scanner,no unknown clients,no legit-simulating emulators(new client type in 1.7 TRUNK)) is in setti's server list. :D :D

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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 16:58   
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Wait one day and then it isnt anymore.
Perhaps you tricked setti xD But I dont know.
It was the same for my server.

First it was in the setti list and the next day it was gone.
Wait some time and you will see that they will kick you out of the list.


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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 17:31   
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vityan666 wrote:
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The big progress happened in setti vs eST area.

My dumb test server which has been configured with very strict security policy(no steamemu at all,no setti server scanner,no unknown clients,no legit-simulating emulators(new client type in 1.7 TRUNK)) is in setti's server list. :D :D


А по нашенски можешь написать ? Я чёто не совсем понял... :oops:

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Posted: Friday, 06 Jun 2008, 18:50   
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Andy wrote:
Wait one day and then it isnt anymore.
Perhaps you tricked setti xD But I dont know.
It was the same for my server.

First it was in the setti list and the next day it was gone.
Wait some time and you will see that they will kick you out of the list.


yes, it works only one day, next day is server removed from setti..


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