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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 19:22   
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alana2020 wrote:
I've been thinking about the Keep, and there might be a way around it without waiting for Gibbed. Can't say for sure if it'll work, though.

It all comes down to how custom world states are imported into the game. My guess (and if there's anyone here with a legit copy that can verify, I'd be much obliged) is that when you start the game and it accesses whatever you've set up in the Keep, a file is downloaded (possibly where DA:I keeps its saves, I don't know) and that file contains all the information about the first two games. BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, which means it's a file that's read before you even create your character.

So let's say you import a world, and quit before actually starting the game; if you were to copy this file to another computer - say, one that has a cracked version of the game - you would then be able to play with whatever custom state you just transferred.

Anyone can access the Keep and share world states, even if you don't own the game; so all you'd have to do is share those states with someone who has an Origins account and a legit copy of the game, and they can e-mail the world state file to you.

Primitive, but effective, assuming the bit about the file is true - can anyone confirm that?


Yeah i would also like to know this, but if that file is created after you make the character than it won't metter , also you said that "BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, " i am felling that previous choices won't really metter that much? It it would probably be just cameo appearances and maybe some small rewards?


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 19:25   
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Patch's and Updates:
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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 19:26   
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why you guys worry about this Dragon Age Keep thing? is this online only or what? can someone plz explain me?


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 19:41   
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Armageddonn wrote:
Yeah i would also like to know this, but if that file is created after you make the character than it won't metter , also you said that "BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, " i am felling that previous choices won't really metter that much? It it would probably be just cameo appearances and maybe some small rewards?


I've seen some of what the Keep affects - the changes it allows for are pretty substantial.

What I meant by changing the states mid-game is that once a world state is imported for a specific character, that data is "permanent"; making further changes in the Keep won't affect that particular playthrough. So it's either a separate file placed somewhere in the save directory or it's somehow incorporated into the save files themselves. No way to know for sure until someone volunteers to take a look.


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 19:52   
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red00 wrote:
why you guys worry about this Dragon Age Keep thing? is this online only or what? can someone plz explain me?


You don't need it to play the game, but what it does is take the decisions you made in the first two games and creates a "world state" in Dragon age Inquisition so that the characters and story change depending on what decisions you made in the first two games. Otherwise it will make the decisions for you and the story and characters may not match the events you played and chose in Dragon Age 1+2.

For example, characters that died or you killed may be alive, parts of the story will be different because it will assume you took a certain path or made a different decision when in fact you did the opposite.


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 19:55   
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sie wrote:
red00 wrote:
why you guys worry about this Dragon Age Keep thing? is this online only or what? can someone plz explain me?


You don't need it to play the game, but what it does is take the decisions you made in the first two games and creates a "world state" in Dragon age Inquisition so that the characters and story change depending on what decisions you made in the first two games. Otherwise it will make the decisions for you and the story and characters may not match the events you played and chose in Dragon Age 1+2.

For example, characters that died or you killed may be alive, parts of the story will be different because it will assume you took a certain path or made a different decision when in fact you did the opposite.


yeah, thanx dude, I know what it is. but do we need an original cd key to use this DA:Keep ? is this an online only thing or it works with the cracked version?


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 20:02   
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red00 wrote:
sie wrote:
red00 wrote:
why you guys worry about this Dragon Age Keep thing? is this online only or what? can someone plz explain me?


You don't need it to play the game, but what it does is take the decisions you made in the first two games and creates a "world state" in Dragon age Inquisition so that the characters and story change depending on what decisions you made in the first two games. Otherwise it will make the decisions for you and the story and characters may not match the events you played and chose in Dragon Age 1+2.

For example, characters that died or you killed may be alive, parts of the story will be different because it will assume you took a certain path or made a different decision when in fact you did the opposite.


yeah, thanx dude, I know what it is. but do we need an original cd key to use this DA:Keep ? is this an online only thing or it works with the cracked version?


It is online only and you have to log in with your Origin account, so yep, you will need to own the game to use it.

But it might be possible to take someones save and use it in a cracked copy, not sure though, maybe 3DM or Steam 006 will come up with something.


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 20:06   
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^yeah, probably someone finds a way. thanx for the info anyway.

can't we use this website for making a save?
https://dragonagekeep.com/en_US/


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 20:10   
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sie wrote:
red00 wrote:
why you guys worry about this Dragon Age Keep thing? is this online only or what? can someone plz explain me?


You don't need it to play the game, but what it does is take the decisions you made in the first two games and creates a "world state" in Dragon age Inquisition so that the characters and story change depending on what decisions you made in the first two games. Otherwise it will make the decisions for you and the story and characters may not match the events you played and chose in Dragon Age 1+2.

For example, characters that died or you killed may be alive, parts of the story will be different because it will assume you took a certain path or made a different decision when in fact you did the opposite.




Well thats what me and @alana2020 want to know, if it makes save or incorporates into a savegame, if it makes a separate file it will be much easier, but if it incorporates into a save game well that means we have to make our character and actually play first so a save game is generated and that can be tricky, so if anyone can test it who has legit game on how the keep works that would be great.


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 20:24   
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red00 wrote:
^yeah, probably someone finds a way. thanx for the info anyway.

can't we use this website for making a save?
https://dragonagekeep.com/en_US/


You can only use it if you own the game, you log in with your Origin account an it imports the save to your game from there.
You can't do it unless you own the game though.

Armageddonn wrote:
sie wrote:
red00 wrote:
why you guys worry about this Dragon Age Keep thing? is this online only or what? can someone plz explain me?


You don't need it to play the game, but what it does is take the decisions you made in the first two games and creates a "world state" in Dragon age Inquisition so that the characters and story change depending on what decisions you made in the first two games. Otherwise it will make the decisions for you and the story and characters may not match the events you played and chose in Dragon Age 1+2.

For example, characters that died or you killed may be alive, parts of the story will be different because it will assume you took a certain path or made a different decision when in fact you did the opposite.




Well thats what me and @alana2020 want to know, if it makes save or incorporates into a savegame, if it makes a separate file it will be much easier, but if it incorporates into a save game well that means we have to make our character and actually play first so a save game is generated and that can be tricky, so if anyone can test it who has legit game on how the keep works that would be great.


I'm not sure if it incorporates or if there is a separate file. I can't seem to find where it saves the game to, i've checked all the places I can think of and I can't find the saves. They might even be cloud based saves, i'm not sure though.

EDIT: found them

C:\Users\*user name*\Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age Inquisition\Save

Looks like the Keep stuff is incorporated into the saves because there are no separate files.


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 20:40   
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kevinyang225 wrote:
Yes,Finally we cracked 64 bit version of Denuvo protection.
But We still have some work to do before we release a crack for public.
We need to collect enough different models of CPU information in the next few days and maybe our first crack of DAI will release later this week.
But I'm not very sure.



are you going to do Lords of the fallen? I got that thing uncracked waiting on my desk top ;]


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 21:29   
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Armageddonn wrote:
alana2020 wrote:
I've been thinking about the Keep, and there might be a way around it without waiting for Gibbed. Can't say for sure if it'll work, though.

It all comes down to how custom world states are imported into the game. My guess (and if there's anyone here with a legit copy that can verify, I'd be much obliged) is that when you start the game and it accesses whatever you've set up in the Keep, a file is downloaded (possibly where DA:I keeps its saves, I don't know) and that file contains all the information about the first two games. BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, which means it's a file that's read before you even create your character.

So let's say you import a world, and quit before actually starting the game; if you were to copy this file to another computer - say, one that has a cracked version of the game - you would then be able to play with whatever custom state you just transferred.

Anyone can access the Keep and share world states, even if you don't own the game; so all you'd have to do is share those states with someone who has an Origins account and a legit copy of the game, and they can e-mail the world state file to you.

Primitive, but effective, assuming the bit about the file is true - can anyone confirm that?


Yeah i would also like to know this, but if that file is created after you make the character than it won't metter , also you said that "BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, " i am felling that previous choices won't really metter that much? It it would probably be just cameo appearances and maybe some small rewards?



*sighs* this is exactly what i wrote few posts away but ofcourse everyone ignored me..i suggested that anyone who had the game can create a topic where he takes request for the dragon age keep and create characters with names and looks and all then upload a save game the second the games create an autosave or something..but i guess no one paid any attention to what i said..so..


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Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 21:37   
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LuciferTheSon wrote:
Armageddonn wrote:
alana2020 wrote:
I've been thinking about the Keep, and there might be a way around it without waiting for Gibbed. Can't say for sure if it'll work, though.

It all comes down to how custom world states are imported into the game. My guess (and if there's anyone here with a legit copy that can verify, I'd be much obliged) is that when you start the game and it accesses whatever you've set up in the Keep, a file is downloaded (possibly where DA:I keeps its saves, I don't know) and that file contains all the information about the first two games. BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, which means it's a file that's read before you even create your character.

So let's say you import a world, and quit before actually starting the game; if you were to copy this file to another computer - say, one that has a cracked version of the game - you would then be able to play with whatever custom state you just transferred.

Anyone can access the Keep and share world states, even if you don't own the game; so all you'd have to do is share those states with someone who has an Origins account and a legit copy of the game, and they can e-mail the world state file to you.

Primitive, but effective, assuming the bit about the file is true - can anyone confirm that?


Yeah i would also like to know this, but if that file is created after you make the character than it won't metter , also you said that "BioWare mentioned that changing world states mid-game won't affect ongoing playthroughs, " i am felling that previous choices won't really metter that much? It it would probably be just cameo appearances and maybe some small rewards?



*sighs* this is exactly what i wrote few posts away but ofcourse everyone ignored me..i suggested that anyone who had the game can create a topic where he takes request for the dragon age keep and create characters with names and looks and all then upload a save game the second the games create an autosave or something..but i guess no one paid any attention to what i said..so..


It is a pretty lengthy process going through all of the previous games decisions and creating a world state, I doubt you will find someone willing to go trough it for everyone who wants it done.

To give you an idea see this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6A-CHqkq8

The best people can hope for is a save editor that can do all the keep stuff.


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 22:00   
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sie wrote:
EDIT: found them

C:\Users\*user name*\Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age Inquisition\Save

Looks like the Keep stuff is incorporated into the saves because there are no separate files.


Can you be more specific? What exactly does the Save directory contain? Which files? Maybe it's not in the Save directory but somewhere else in the Documents/BioWare/Inquisition folder?

sie wrote:
It is a pretty lengthy process going through all of the previous games decisions and creating a world state, I doubt you will find someone willing to go trough it for everyone who wants it done.


You wouldn't need someone else to do the Keep for you, though. Anyone can use it to set up a world state; all they have to do then is share that world state with someone else via Origins. That person would then start the game, import the world state, and (I guess, if there really isn't a separate file) create a character, then e-mail the save file back.

It's work, but far less work than actually having to go through the Keep for every person who needs it.

-- Edit --

sie: If you'd be willing to indulge me in another experiment? :)

Let's say you import a world state, create a character, save a game, etc. Then you shut down Origins, and start a new game with a different character. Is the world state still the one you got from the Keep, or the default version? Because if it's the first, that means the Keep data must be in a separate file; if it goes to the default, then the information's definitely integrated into the save itself.

EDIT 2: One more thing! The Keep FAQ does seem to suggest that there is some kind of transfer involved:

Quote:
Game Slot: This is the file that the Keep will send to Dragon Age: Inquisition for starting a new game.


Ladies and gentlemen: we need to locate that file. :)


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Post Post subject: Re: Dragon Age: Inquisition   
Posted: Wednesday, 03 Dec 2014, 22:03   
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alana2020 wrote:
sie wrote:
EDIT: found them

C:\Users\*user name*\Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age Inquisition\Save

Looks like the Keep stuff is incorporated into the saves because there are no separate files.


Can you be more specific? What exactly does the Save directory contain? Which files? Maybe it's not in the Save directory but somewhere else in the Documents/BioWare/Inquisition folder?

sie wrote:
It is a pretty lengthy process going through all of the previous games decisions and creating a world state, I doubt you will find someone willing to go trough it for everyone who wants it done.


You wouldn't need someone else to do the Keep for you, though. Anyone can use it to set up a world state; all they have to do then is share that world state with someone else via Origins. That person would then start the game, import the world state, and (I guess, if there really isn't a separate file) create a character, then e-mail the save file back.


It's work, but far less work than actually having to go through the Keep for every person who needs it.



There's only two folders there, Save and screenshots, and the save directory contains the save games and 2 files called profileoptions and profileoptions_profile

Also to answer the question that was edited in: It loads the default world state in offline mode


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