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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Saturday, 18 Sep 2010, 18:54   
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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Saturday, 18 Sep 2010, 19:15   
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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Sunday, 19 Sep 2010, 15:19   
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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Sunday, 19 Sep 2010, 17:05   
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That's a bad idea. If you're using pirated software, you often can't tell whether a virus is boundled or not. Secondly, this won't protect you against viruses using network-based exploits.

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I use clamwin

I was rather getting Kingsoft ( which is really the WORST AV of all ) then that. ClamWin doesn't even support real-time scanning. Then, it's OSS, but there is no company behind it. ClamAV themselves claim only 600,000 installations. That's a joke for a professional base. No AV with that size of base installations can seriously detect many viruses, simply because the amount of reports is very small.

Why did Microsoft make MSE and stop Live Care ? Because, Forefront Client Security ( the enterprise brother of MSE ) had to few installations to claim a proper base. This was not so much done to deliver a free AV for Windows users than to provide data for FCS, so FCS was getting better.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Sunday, 19 Sep 2010, 17:34   
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I use clamwin

Once, I had to choose between ClamWin and no antivirus.

I chose no antivirus.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Monday, 20 Sep 2010, 02:40   
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I actually have no antivirus, but use clamwin only to do some detection. Like hegyak, I use sandboxie or other virtualization to avoid virus and malware (and my Clamwin inside sandboxie :lol: ) But I still need suggestion which is the best free AV products - BitDefender?.

My last antivirus is avira and after it fails to detect some worms and after I submitted those worms to avira and avira still cannot detect it until now, I choose no antivirus.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Monday, 20 Sep 2010, 17:16   
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But I still need suggestion which is the best free AV products - BitDefender?

Hard to say, Avira is in general good, as I've said. Only because it fails to detect a specific virus, that doesn't mean it's bad. In fact, Avira's detection is quite good. Security Essentials is - as it's done by Microsoft - probably the one friendliest to the system ( no SSDT hooks or anything ) and it's detection is good as well. AVG is also qualified.
What you choose of these, is your choice. I could - with my at this point not unbiased opinion - recommend MSE. However, I wouldn't say AVG or Avira are bad by any means. I find Avira rather annoying due to this constant advertisement of the paid version, and it doesn't deliver certain protections in the free version. Without the advertisements, AVG does the same. MSE however doesn't, because there is no paid version aiming at home users. The sole paid MSE 'version' is it's enterprise brother Forefront, which however, is the same as MSE, just with management and a different - commercial - licensing.
Nevertheless, if you want just on-demand scanning, it doesn't really matter which of these you choose.

BitDefender's free edition is simply said, useless. a) you're not getting the latest version, but 2009 while 2010 is out. b) there is no guard.
The free edition of BitDefender is primarily aiming at people who'd consider buying it and trying to motivate people to do so.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Tuesday, 21 Sep 2010, 07:17   
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Avira is a very good free antivirus and Avira ads can be blocked easily by using Software Restriction Policies. Because it doesn't detect this specific virus while its spread widely here in my country I was forced to change to BitDefender or clients will send back their computer to remove that virus.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Tuesday, 21 Sep 2010, 15:04   
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Avira is a very good free antivirus and Avira ads can be blocked easily by using Software Restriction Policies.

lol'd. It's an executable on its own? And isn't SRP a bit of a very esoteric workaround?
Doesn't that create messageboxes informing you that the application has failed to launch due to administrative policies?
Also, on Windows 7, use AppLocker instead.
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Because it doesn't detect this specific virus while its spread widely here in my country I was forced to change to BitDefender or clients will send back their computer to remove that virus.

Block it per SRP/AppLocker? Or - which is actually even better - inform Avira about it. BitDefender Free has got no real time protection, so that helps a lot.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Monday, 27 Sep 2010, 16:45   
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Doesn't that create messageboxes informing you that the application has failed to launch due to administrative policies?
No messagebox when avira trying to open their ads, unless you try to launch avira ads directly. Avira ads use executable on its own.

I already submit the virus long ago and I think many others already submitted it. I will try to inform them again later. Also it is possible they didn't get the virus because of the sample size is too big around 27~MB.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Monday, 27 Sep 2010, 21:05   
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ChrisTX wrote:
Doesn't that create messageboxes informing you that the application has failed to launch due to administrative policies?
No messagebox when avira trying to open their ads, unless you try to launch avira ads directly. Avira ads use executable on its own.

I already submit the virus long ago and I think many others already submitted it. I will try to inform them again later. Also it is possible they didn't get the virus because of the sample size is too big around 27~MB.

Yeah it's so easy to disable those ads. So easy, it makes me think they implemented it like that on purpose.

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Post Post subject: Re: [Antivirus] Thread, what AV your using,   
Posted: Tuesday, 28 Sep 2010, 05:37   
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No antivirus ftw :8=)

Just do regular checks of msconfig and task manager to check of new start up entries and suspicious binarys running and you will be as good as a glove :3 :DANCE:

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