LOL.
Hardcore rocker vs Rapganxta.
First, being limited to specific genres sucks.
Second, .. so don't be so LIMITED! I have to say that I like some rock genres and dislike others. I like some Rap (if mixed into other genres) or stuff like TripHop, where you can see musical.. skill.. but I dislike most.
Third, prejudices are for noobs. Real good and successful Trance artists DO have skill in creating great sound. Rockers are NOT all long-haired screamers or fucked in the head. Not ALL rappers have an IQ below 100 just because some texts are ridiculous.
Mr Dev, there's Christian Rock, too. There are so many subgenres and Rap and Rock even mix quite often, so how can you talk about Rap and Rock like there are only two groups?
(Comment: My personal experience is that many people that like hip hop try to be cool, since their music often tries to be cool, too. That's what I hate about it. Ganxta! Retarded. But there's good stuff, too. As long as the texts are good and the melody is not too simple and repetitive or if there are even instruments and influence from "real music", it can be great. That music scene just has too many wanna-bes with no brain.
I can't stand stuff like Korn either. I'm more into symbiosis of Rock and Electronic.)
Different music tastes are not in a war, grow up. Just the extreme parts bash each other, since they hate the stupidity of each other while not seing their own.
That clash's also because of subcultures emerging from music genres, specifically @ HipHop.
Brain damaged? Do you have any idea what the definition of music is?
Don't respect anything than Rock? I thought Jarre pwns?
Most Rock fans look like shit? What do you think all the normal dressed people listen to, if they don't listen to Pop music? No, not only Techno.
There will never be something better than Rock? Oh yea, so having a guitar in it makes something good automatically?
Seriously, both your posts are full of .
Talent, good sound - may it be good because of being complex or because of being catchy, meaningful, funny, entertaining lyrics and rhythm make music good!
I personally don't need a basic Music Maker 2005 beat in the background with nothing more than wannabe-lyrics saying "yo motherfucker, the world is shit get drugs bitch omg I'm the gangsta yeyeye, I'm tryin' ta make kewl lyrix n fail miserably because there's nothing in my brain to be a good artist, fuck you all" (hai Kollegah!).
And I don't need screaming and growling monkeys either.
Well but the thing is, Rock has more subgenres (even without influence of Electronic or Rap) than HipHop - therefore, generalizing Rock is more reckless than critizing HipHop, since the majority of HipHop is in fact of not very high musical value, if you look at it with the aspects of music I mentioned above.
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GTFO rock is the most popular genere of music even if you like it or not
False. Pop is. There's too much different stuff today to have a dominating genre.
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Rock makes the musical instruments live up for what they were made.
True. Rock requires most instrument playing skill, if you look at Progressive Rock or Speed metal

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Because I composed techno and chip music myself and even thought it sounded good to me I can clearly realise that I had no talent and it still sounded decent after just 1 hour or work at most.
May apply to some, but a conclusion like "all electronic music requires no skill", is no good, but you were probably talking about Techno only.
New Age, some Trance (ATB for ex.), Industrial and so on do require skill.
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I can play guitar but a instrument is not a genre so that statement beceomes already false.
The statement was that instrumental music > synthetic music. Which is not completely false, but there are some examples that prove that wrong.
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And about "Rock never die's" becomes false too because actually Techno and HipHop is overtaking real fast.
Wrong. Hardly any genres dies anyway (just becomes less or more popular in times), and no, nothing is overtaking anything. Manifoldness ftw.
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Rock is a total imagination by people, it has nothing to do with the Death and neither with "Rock's" so even the name of the genre is pretty stupid.
Many genre names are stupid. Rap and HipHop, too.
..and that part with imagination is nonsense.
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However if you are a Rocker you are a hippie because the first rock songs were totaly hippie shit, only the titles had 'Rock' inside which made this kind of a new genre.
Wrong. Historically and technically wrong. Hippies are the 1970s, Rock came up in the 1950s (don't take my word on this, but they're definitely from different times, lol); Rockers are no Hippies and Hippies are not all Rockers; today's Hippies listen to Psytrance.
Etc, etc, etc.. nuff said.
P.S.: About Rammstein. Their texts are sick, but their music sounds great. "I think Industrial metal is a piece of shit outside the rammstein band." Well uhm, Static-X is quite good as well.