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| Author: | Steve Jobs [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 15:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
b00t wrote: To answer your question: The spiritual satisfaction and that nice feeling that you're an honest man. To be honest, I wouldn't have any of those feelings. It's ridiculous to pay 300$ for an OS. |
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| Author: | ChrisTX [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 16:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
Dick Darlington wrote: (I recommend this to everyone. It's made for Linux, but works with W7 too. Microsoft's official tool failed, but this worked great.) So hard to use bcdboot and bootsect from WAIK. Totally agree'd. Let's instead use some shitty Linux tool using grub or what not to chainload! Dick Darlington wrote: To be honest, I wouldn't have any of those feelings. It's ridiculous to pay 300$ for an OS. Let me fix that for you, W7 Home Premium costs $119. Not $300. Due to offers, you could have had it for only $50 at one point. Yes, CoD MW2 costed _more_ than W7. Ridiculous, I see. |
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| Author: | Steve Jobs [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 16:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
ChrisTX wrote: Dick Darlington wrote: (I recommend this to everyone. It's made for Linux, but works with W7 too. Microsoft's official tool failed, but this worked great.) So hard to use bcdboot and bootsect from WAIK. Totally agree'd. Let's instead use some shitty Linux tool using grub or what not to chainload! Dick Darlington wrote: To be honest, I wouldn't have any of those feelings. It's ridiculous to pay 300$ for an OS. Let me fix that for you, W7 Home Premium costs $119. Not $300. Due to offers, you could have had it for only $50 at one point. Yes, CoD MW2 costed _more_ than W7. Ridiculous, I see. Let's build our arguments on extreme cases or other random BS. |
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| Author: | RessourectoR [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 20:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
Yea. I need Ultimate. No deal for that anywhere. |
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| Author: | .Rar [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 21:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
Thankfully things went well for me and I didn't have to do anything else as in Diablo's case. I have a strong dislike of flashing BIOSes or firmware. Dick Darlington wrote: Works great so far (Doing Windows Update at the moment.) and I doubt it will cause problems later. If you ever get trouble, look for a new version on 9Down. |
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| Author: | NewEraCracker [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 21:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
Daz Loader rocks. If your ISO is untouched. There will be no trouble  Oh and if you ever get KB971033 run this in cmd line as admin to disable it:
Regards, NewEraCracker |
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| Author: | Steve Jobs [ Wednesday, 08 Jun 2011, 22:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
NewEraCracker wrote: Daz Loader rocks. If your ISO is untouched. There will be no trouble Oh and if you ever get KB971033 run this in cmd line as admin to disable it:
Regards, NewEraCracker I've checked again after your post and I see that it's installed on my PC. I remember leaving it unchecked but I guess I didn't. I don't think they were causing any trouble, but I have disabled them anyway: 
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| Author: | ChrisTX [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 01:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
RessourectoR wrote: Yea. I need Ultimate. No deal for that anywhere. I'd love to know why that is. |
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| Author: | RessourectoR [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 03:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions I want to try/use some of those Enterprise/Ultimate features sooner or later and I don't like to be potentially restricted. I didn't even know that Enterprise edition exists. I could probably live with Professional though. I kinda thought ability to join a domain is Ultimate only, but I remembered that wrong. If the Windows Loader ever stops working (which I doubt it will), I could use that, too. |
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| Author: | ChrisTX [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 05:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
RessourectoR wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions I want to try/use some of those Enterprise/Ultimate features sooner or later and I don't like to be potentially restricted. I can understand that. Although, I myself did use a lot of the Ultimate features, I doubt that more than 0.5% of those who pirated W7 Ultimate ever used one of these features. As for the Professional features, it's maybe 5%, but likely less (and that only because of Remote Desktop). Sure, I wouldn't want to go with non-Ultimate either, but for me that's the case because I rely on a lot of features that both, Professional and Ultimate provide. You can't seriously tell me that the $50 that Home Premium costed are too much for an operating system. The OS X 10.6 upgrade costed $30, but seriously (1), it was more or less what Windows delivers with a service pack, and required you to own OS X 10.5. Windows 7 upgrades work with a 10 year old product on th eother hand. Also for $50. I seriously wonder how it can be that people who can afford a $500+ PC can't afford a $50 operating system. Although it's not even only about that. It's the same with games. Can anyone explain me why World of Goo which is like $10 has a piracy rate of 90%? As for Microsoft, they don't even depend on the customer market, it's rather small business for them. But first you pirate your OS, then you pirate such games. Even better, our dear CS 1.6 pirates here. The game is freaking $10 as well. So how exactly is it that one can afford a computer to play the game on but not the actual game? AlicanC, can you tell the developers of World of Goo please how piracy totally does not hurt them because they still have the copies! It only almost drove them to ruin, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.! Of course, this is about markets and targeted audiences. I wouldn't say that piracy is per se bad either, as there are cases where no damage is done, definitely: Simple example, Photoshop. That aims for the professional and/or casual photographer, also by its price range. If one wants to edit a few photos for personal usage, nobody would buy Photoshop for that. Adobe does not target that audience either. So if you pirate Photoshop over using GIMP or w/e software, no harm is done, as the sole difference is that you have less work to do. Adobe would not be able to sell the product to you, nor do they aim to do so. However, as for products which target you - games included - piracy is simply a bad thing to do. Such companies live off the market, and pirating does harm there. If you people could at least accept that this is the case, but uh you don't want to see it. It can't be so bad if it's so convenient, right? RessourectoR wrote: I didn't even know that Enterprise edition exists. Same as ultimate, but VL only. RessourectoR wrote: I could probably live with Professional though. I kinda thought ability to join a domain is Ultimate only, but I remembered that wrong. If the Windows Loader ever stops working (which I doubt it will), I could use that, too. For 99% of all people, Professional would do. Ultimate features are really only making sense in a corporate environment. |
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| Author: | Steve Jobs [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 14:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
ChrisTX wrote: AlicanC, can you tell the developers of World of Goo please how piracy totally does not hurt them because they still have the copies! It only almost drove them to ruin, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.! What makes you think that people who pirate games would buy them if there were no piracy? Do you think that people have lots of money and they are pirating just to be sons of bitches? |
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| Author: | NewEraCracker [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 16:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
Windows 7 Service Pack 1 for the win  Much more stable than RTM. |
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| Author: | ChrisTX [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 23:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
Dick Darlington wrote: ChrisTX wrote: AlicanC, can you tell the developers of World of Goo please how piracy totally does not hurt them because they still have the copies! It only almost drove them to ruin, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.! What makes you think that people who pirate games would buy them if there were no piracy? Do you think that people have lots of money and they are pirating just to be sons of bitches? Yeah, totally those 90% who pirated the $10 game would not buy a game they want to play otherwise. Because $10 is so much. Went to the cinema recently? No? Otherwise, why do these care to download the game? Trash. |
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| Author: | RessourectoR [ Thursday, 09 Jun 2011, 23:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
You can consume a lot of stuff that you wouldn't deem worthy to give money for if you had to. Obviously. Any assumptions made about how many sales are lost on how many pirated copies are bold to make without hard facts, which can't really be determined in this case. For example, I would never consider to buy the four Fast&Furious movies I downloaded, and I would never consider to pay 300 bucks for Windows Ultimate. |
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| Author: | ChrisTX [ Friday, 10 Jun 2011, 00:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is there any reason to "buy" Windows 7? |
RessourectoR wrote: For example, I would never consider to buy the four Fast&Furious movies I downloaded, and I would never consider to pay 300 bucks for Windows Ultimate. Typical excuse. So how about, hm, watching these movies in the cinema and buying W7 Home Premium? |
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